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By: Willis and Bohlin
The Maryland Terrapins and the Georgetown Hoyas have quite a few players competing for roster spots this year in the NBA Summer League installments in both Orlando and Las Vegas. The DC Dime has been following these former Hoyas and Terrapins stand outs as they continue to chase their NBA dreams, in this post we will break down what these players have done up to this point.
Hollis Thompson: As we previously posted, Hollis Thompson signed a three-year contract with the Oklahoma City Thunder after going undrafted. Thompson had been nursing a groin injury for which he had to have minor surgery. This procedure has kept Thompson from competing in any summer league games for the Thunder. All indications are that Thompson will be with the Thunder after training camp and into the regular season so this should only be a minor bump in the road for Thompson as he begins what will hopefully be a long NBA career.
Henry Sims: Sims is pulling double duty this summer and played for the Utah Jazz entry in the Orlando Summer League and is also on the Chicago Bulls roster for the Vegas Summer League, basketball obviously never stops for Sims. Sims had trouble getting steady minutes with the Jazz summer league team averaging only 11 minutes per contest. In those 11 minutes per game of playing time Sims was able to average 4 PPG and 2 RPG.
While these numbers will not blow anyone away they were more than enough to garner Sims an invitation to play with the Chicago Bulls entry in the Vegas Summer League this week. Sims made his Bulls summer league debut last night and chipped in four points to go along with six rebounds. With the Bulls recent loss of Omar Asik to the Rockets in free agency there is a more than decent chance that Sims, if he performs to the level he did his senior year at Georgetown, could realistically receive an invitation to training camp and have a legitimate chance at making the Bulls roster. If you want to catch Sims in action in Las Vegas his next game will be today, July 18th, at 6 pm EST against the Houston Rockets.
Jason Clark: Jason Clark has fared rather well through two games with the Miami Heat entry in the Vegas Summer League. Even though the stats don’t show it in his VSL debut against Toronto where he did not register one point, rebound or assist, Clark was very much involved in the action. For some reason however, his teammates were not looking to get him involved on offense. Despite this Clark did quite the job when given the opportunity to guard Raptors lottery pick Terrence Ross as Clark helped hold Ross to only 14 points on 14 shots.
Clark was more aggressive on the offense end in his second game, a 50 point blowout win against the hapless Los Angeles Lakers summer league team. In this matchup Clark was able to contribute six points, five rebounds, one block and one assist. Clark will need to continue to pour in these types of contributions to the Heat in order to receive an invite to training camp but knowing his work ethic I have little doubt in my mind he will continue to perform. If you want to catch Jason Clark’s next game in Las Vegas his Miami Heat will be going up against the run and gun Golden State Warriors tonight at 10:30 pm EST on NBA TV.
Terrell Stoglin: There’s not a whole lot to report on for the 6’1 Stoglin, who decided to forgo his junior year at Maryland, yet remained undrafted. Stoglin is not playing many minutes for the Toronto Raptors this summer, and even though he has appeared in 3 games thus far, the results have not been good. Stoglin’s most prominent performance came against the Miami Heat, where he played 5 total minutes. In those minutes, he got to the line twice and scored 5 points right off the bat. His aggressive mentality that he showed off in college also came out that game immediately. While you’d think he would get more minutes, that simply isn’t going to be happening this summer. I’m sure the Raptors aren’t disappointed with his play, but in order for them to truly gauge his abilities, they need to showcase him a little more.
Ekene Ibekwe: Yes, there has been an Ibekwe sighting in Las Vegas! Ekene is playing for the Portland Trailblazers this summer, and he has appeared in two games thus far (playing 10 minutes in both). I got the chance to see both games, and Ibekwe has shown off his rebounding ability that he had way back in ’07 for the Terps. He has collected 7 rebounds so far (4 against Miami, 3 against Houston), playing hard and trying to show his value as an offensive board cleaner. Ibekwe’s shot hasn’t gone down a lot, as evidenced by his 2-of-7 shooting in two games thus far, but the fact that he’s looking to score and getting quality chances is something, right?
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For Terrell Stoglin, it must have been absolute hell. Having to wait in anticipation as one less skilled basketball player after another (60, in total), had their name called before his. Four hours later, Stoglin came to the reality that he was not going to be drafted, thus crushing his dream of starring in the NBA. Fortunately for him, Stoglin has more than enough talent and track record to merit an invite to the NBA Summer League (where stars like Jeremy Lin are born). Even better, it’s for a perennially talent-starved team like the Toronto Raptors.
That’s right, Stoglin has earned the right to play for the Raptors during the nine day Las Vegas Summer League starting July 13th. It’s a chance to not only showcase his talents in hopes of gaining a coveted roster spot in Toronto, but to also be granted so much more opportunity. Take, for example, the fact that this years Summer League is going to have a record number of teams at 24, giving Stoglin a chance to impress over half the teams in the NBA. Stoglin is a gamer, as we all know, and he’s going to have five chances (the number of games the Raptors play) to show that in front of a myriad of scouts, player personnel, GMs, and front office execs. The 6’1 guard is going to need to change the public perception of him from very undersized shooting guard to shoot first point guard/sixth man extraordinaire.
I personally think he can without a doubt thrive in the NBA. His range is amazing, and he seems to have a clutch factor about him that could be very well suited in an NBA setting. In a way, his skill set reminds me of another tiny player named Bobby Jackson, who was an absolutely fantastic sixth man in spite of being way undersized. He can knock it down from deep, and while he wasn’t asked to pass at the college level on Maryland, he has shown the ability to be able to get other players involved. I think his attack the basket mentality and variety of ways to score should land him a spot somewhere in the league. His talent, though, isn’t really the only thing in question.
Once a team sees that Stoglin is a competent three point shooter, very quick, and has a solid ability to finish at the rim, he might garner some more attention to be sure. But he also has a chance to dispel any notions of him not being a consummate professional. It was widely reported that Stoglin was given the axe at Maryland (rather than actually leaving on his own accord) because of failed drug tests. Those character issues can haunt a player throughout their entire career, and may leave teams wary of spending any amount of money on such a person (and rightly so; just as Zach Randolph if people consider him a nice guy yet). I’m not saying Stoglin was a bad person at all, but he faces an uphill battle from here on out. Showing up on time for games, playing his hardest, not complaining, and showing that he is coachable can give Terrell a foot up.
Another advantage Terrell Stoglin has? He happens to be playing in front of the Bryan Colangelo, who happens to be the son of Jerry Colangelo, who happens to be the director of USA Basketball. This is a nascent storyline, and one that probably won’t get too much traction but is still worth being noted. Who knows how much sway Bryan has with his father Jerry, but if anything it gives Stoglin a chance to get some notice by Team USA basketball that he may have otherwise not received. A practice squad invitation isn’t out of the question at this stage in Stoglin’s career, and would likely be a dream come true. He is going to need to be impressive and on his best behavior, but it’s something to take into consideration to be sure. If JaVale McGee can get an invitation then Stoglin, with Team USA’s reported interest in getting younger players to participate long term, should at least get some notice.
Stoglin’s first game is against the Houston Rockets on Friday, July 13th at 3PM Pacific Time in Cox Pavillion, so if you’re in Vegas and a Terps fan, go get tickets. He’ll be facing off against another local player in former Dematha player Jerai Grant, who garnered an invitation from Houston.
We’ll keep you updated on his progress throughout the Summer League, but in the mean time we wish him the best of luck!
Fear The Turtle
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And just like that, as unceremoniously as he came in, Terrell Stoglin’s tenure as a Maryland Terrapin is over. The last carry over from the Gary Williams era punched his ticket for the NBA draft on Monday under the guise of leaving because of his talent. It would be utterly dishonest to claim that Stoglin had a “change of heart” from his previous statements, because the reality is that he was released from the team.
To be more specific, he was released from the team for repeatedly violating the Maryland Athletic Code of Conduct. That’s the politically correct way of saying that Stoglin was (likely) smoking the ganja a few too many times. So as not to encourage conspiracy theories, I’ll just say that it is beyond me how any college athlete can manage to fail these drug tests once, let alone three times! They’re unofficially informed of these things days beforehand, and to be dense enough as to fail one speaks, to me, about your commitment in certain facets of life. No, I’m not trying to discredit Terrel’s overall body of work during his tenure at Maryland. He was a fantastic basketball player who led the ACC in scoring last year. He was a baller in the truest sense of the word, and a person who could score on any team he played against. That being said, now that Stoglin is gone we can look at what he wasn’t for the team, not what he was.
A definite argument could be made that Mr.
Stogie Stoglin did equally as much harm on the court as he did good. I cite the example that a much smarter friend of mine posed to me shortly after the scandal broke. “There’s a reason why my favorite player, Allen Iverson, never won any championships,” he said. And just like that, it clicked for me, and I moved on. Much like being dumped by a girl, then finding out later that the girl had been cheating on you with the entire football team, I got closure. Terrell Stoglin was, in many ways, a watered-down version of The Answer. Translation: a volume shooter whose style of play hindered the team as much as it helped via keeping other players uninvolved.
One of my favorite examples of the futility in the Stoglin offensive plan occurred on February of this year, when the Terrapins played against ‘The U’. It was a hard fought game that saw the Terps eventually lose in double overtime 90-86 in spite of Terrell’s 33 points. I know, you might be thinking that it’s simply a rarity that the Terps would lose when Stoglin is scoring like that, but anyone watching that game was cringing at what I have to deem as one of the worst performances I had ever seen in college basketball. Stoglin, notorious for falling in love with the three-pointer, took a career high 20 of them this game. No, he wasn’t “feeling it” or “in the zone,” Stoglin just wanted to shoot three pointers that game because he felt like it. Stoglin only made 3 shots that weren’t from deep (and one of them was a long 2), and he only hit 6 of those 20 three’s! It was pathetic.
It was like a high school dance where Stoglin is the kid break dancing on the middle of the floor and Nick Faust, Alex Len, and James Padgett were standing around like wallflowers marveling at Stoglin walk up the court and hoist a shot 5 seconds into the shot clock. Problem is, those moves don’t get girls/win games. They’re just obnoxious and take up too much room on the dance floor where other kids could be cutting rug with Tina Turnbuckle en route to her phone number. That was the problem with Stoglin; he always got his, but he left everyone else out to dry. Despite being the main option on offense, Terrell never finished with more than 4 assists. Understandable, considering he isn’t normally the main ballhandler (Pe’Shon was) and wasn’t used to dishing out assists. That’s fine, if you actually buy that. But looking back to his freshman year when Gary actually kept him on a slightly tighter leash, Stoglin managed to dish out way more assists in less minutes. Stoglin shot a little less, but got the team more involved and as a result helped the Terps win more games. We weren’t blowing anyone away, but at least we weren’t taking 20 three’s in a game (the most he ever shot was 7).
Back to the Miami game for a second. The game went into double overtime, which seems to suggest that Stoglin was the main factor in getting the victory. This is a problem that many fans (myself included) have when they’re watching volume shooters go to work: we get extremely excited about the clutch three to force overtime or the buzzer beater to win the game, but we completely forget about all the other sequences that got us to that in the first place. For every and-one Stoglin draws, he also takes ill advised drives to the bucket and throws up shots that have no chance of going in. Just for the sake of it. Stoglin is a stat guy, in that he loves getting them, but he is never going to win you as many games as an unselfish extremely talented player on an extremely talented team (think Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Kentucky). That’s the reality of many volume shooters, and unless they’re surrounded by gobs of talent, they’re going to win you games and lose you games equally.
So where does Maryland move from here? Once more into the breach. They’ve got a fantastic true point guard in Pe’Shon Howard who, despite recent injuries and arrests, is going to be an absolutely phenomenal fit with this team. Howard is the antithesis of Stoglin, in that he is always looking to get his teammates involved while never calling his number (he’s taken more than 10 shots in a game only 4 times during his two year career). There will most certainly be a void in scoring, but I’m entirely confident that Nick Faust, who scored in double figures nine of his last eleven games, will carry the torch and do it much more effectively than Stoglin ever did. Faust is the future, and his silky smooth game with lots of range, is going to lead Maryland to places Terrell likely never could. Combine that with the Terrapins having more front court depth than almost any team in the NCAA with Alex Len, Shaquille Cleare, Charles Mitchell, and James Padgett. That’s not even mentioning the impact that Sam Cassell Jr., the shooting guard son of NBA All-Star Sam Cassell, is going to have with the team, as well as fellow incoming freshman Seth Allen. The scoring is not something that Terps fans should be worried about, because it’s going to be there. And scoring isn’t the only way to win games. Defensively, the Terps are set up for major success with that kind of size and (presumably) rebounding acumen.
So for Terrell, good luck in your future endeavors. I hope you get drafted, and I hope you have a great and long career in the NBA. But the Turtle will move on, however slowly that may be.
University of Maryland leading scorer Terrell Stoglin is leaving College Park. The Terrapins guard has filed his paperwork for the NBA Draft in a move that is puzzling as Stoglin had already announced he was coming back for his Junior year. We will have more on this story today.
UPDATE: 11:00 A.M. – It has been reported by many outlets that both Terrell Stoglin and Mychal Parker were handed down one-year suspensions for an unspecified rules violation. This explains Parker’s decision to transfer out of UMD more clearly and essentially eliminates any hope that Stoglin was simply testing the waters of the NBA Draft and would ultimately return to the Terps. This is a tough break for head coach Mark Turgeon heading into his second season at the helm in College Park, MD. As more details emerge in this huge story for the Terrapins we will continue to bring you updates.
UPDATE: 12:00 P.M. – According to a report from Patrick Stevens, one of the areas most reliable sources for Maryland athletics news, Terrell Stoglin received a one-year suspension following his third failed drug test with the University. While this is only a report from a source of Stevens, it is likely this is in fact the transgression that caused the suspension to take place as no other causes for this suspension have been brought to the fore front at this time. As more news breaks regarding this story TheDCDime will continue to bring you all the coverage.
As a program, the Maryland Terrapins are largely successful; Since the 1970′s, about two to three times per decade, Maryland goes to the Sweet Sixteen. Not necessarily a terrible thing for a program who, for the past 30 years, has largely ignored the ever-growing role of AAU basketball at the collegiate level. Under the Gary Williams regime, there simply wasn’t the emphasis on recruiting harder than the military. The end result was that Maryland was a lot closer to Belmont than it was Syracuse or North Carolina.
Enter Mark Turgeon; a man with a long track record of success from the moment he began coaching at the college level. After serving as an assistant under former college and NBA head coach Larry Brown at Kansas, Turgeon’s track record as a head coach includes: one Sweet 16 appearance in 2006 with Wichita State, 4 NCAA Tournament appearances with Texas A&M and a 97-40 overall record, and 0 losing seasons. The guy has studied under fantastic, Hall of Fame caliber coaches, and clearly felt Maryland was where he could continue that trend.
So as not to dabble into revisionist history, I will state clearly that no matter what happens from this season onward, Mark Turgeon did not come into Maryland notorious for his recruiting ability. He was good, not great, at coaxing the dearth of talent in Texas to come play for him. Occasionally landing a 4-star does not constitute becoming an all-star recruiter. What Turgeon has shown, however, is that he is an incredibly savvy businessman. Which is exactly what Maryland needs to keep up with the times and remain competitive.
See, when Gary Williams was hired back in 1989, the University of Maryland was not what it is today. Certainly, the Len Bias tragedy had sullied the university’s public perception. The transition was difficult. But the reality is that Maryland had yet to shed the label of being a more than a safety school academically, with an aging Cole Field House to play in. Recruiting kids to come and play at Maryland, regardless of Gary Williams, was an unenviable task.
But 2012 Maryland is not by any standards the same. According to the 2012 Academic Ranking of World Universities, the University of Maryland stands at a formidable 36th. The U.S. News and World Report has Maryland as the 17th best public university in the nation. Not to mention having top 5 business and engineering schools, and incredibly high graduation rates that rival the University of Virginia. That’s just icing on the cake, however, because what Maryland also boasts is the Comcast Center: a $125 million stadium that rivals most professional basketball arenas. When that place is packed, which is often, Maryland hosts a raucous crowd of 17,950 that even the iciest-veined players can be thawed by. Many an important game has been and will continue to be hosted in that stadium.
The only thing Maryland needed was a coach willing to play the recruiting game; a coach willing to show off and exemplify all that Maryland had to offer. Turgeon realized that Maryland is a dream job, and jumped from one fantastic program to a potential powerhouse.
The reality is that one-and-done players are equate to success in college basketball. Great programs like North Carolina, Syracuse, and even more recently Duke, have come to the realization that the name of the game is getting talent to your school. Whether they stay one year, two years, or four years is background noise. Mark Turgeon embraces that business model, and applied it to Maryland.
To be sure, recruiting the top 5 or 10 players in an incoming class is a futile effort. Kentucky’s John Calipari, Duke’s Mike Krzyzewski, and North Carolina’s Roy Williams have those players. The trick is to aggressively pursue as much 4-star level talent as possible. What is a better situation: one 5-star bolstering a mediocre team because all your recruiting efforts went to acquiring that one recruit? or 8 high 4-star caliber players who develop together. Stockpiling talent is something that only makes the program stronger. It’s why North Carolina still beat the Terps in the ACC tournament in spite of their starting power forward John Henson going down. Another guy, James McAdoo, who would probably start on most NCAA teams, waited his turn and performed very well the second he got it. Promising a guy minute is important, but really good players are enticed by competition. Mark Turgeon is going to give Maryland that edge.
Competitive teams become sleeper teams, like Florida State, who just won the ACC. Competitive teams are appealing to local players who want to go to winners. Competitive teams drive local 5-star recruits to come play for an already strong Maryland team, and in turn pushes them over the edge to a national title contender.
Turgeon is building that foundation as we speak, with Maryland’s 2012 recruiting class being one of the best we’ve seen in a decade. Featuring two 4-star big men in Charles Mitchell and Shaquille Cleare, to go along with three 3-star players, Maryland is simply adding to its depth. Remember, the Terps already have a very talented young center in Alex Len, and talent at the guard position in pure point guard Pe’Shon Howard and potential NBA draft pick Terrell Stoglin. Stoglin, already a legitimate threat on offense, is even more deadly with Howard to distribute the ball to him.
Conversely, it’s hard to say whether or not Turgeon is on the same scale as the man he will always tend to be compared to, Gary Williams. Perhaps it was the loss of Howard at the point that made his offense sometimes look like something you’d find in a Wizards game or a high school gym on a Saturday. The Stoglin-heavy offensive sets wore on fans throughout the season, and likely wore on Terrell. He is certainly going to need to show, and I’m sure he will, that he has the coaching chops to compete in the ACC. That will especially be important given that forgotten rival from the 1980′s, Syracuse, will be joining the conference in 2013.
Though Mark Turgeon may not be exactly Gary Williams, what he offers is the rest of the package. He’s a great businessman with at a great business school. He seems truly dedicated to recruiting the area and making Maryland as successful as possible. We want Mark Turgeon around for his intangibles; after all, aren’t the intangibles Maryland’s appeal anyway?
Well, at least it’s over with.
Maryland, as a #8 seed, was not expected to beat the #1 Tar Heels. Vegas had the spread at -15 1/2, for Pete’s sake. Not to mention the 4 potential NBA draft picks that North Carolina ran out on the floor. Any way you swing it, this simply was not the Terps year to shine in the ACC tournament.
All things considered though, Maryland players should be proud. They proved they have a bright future ahead in Terrell Stoglin and Nick Faust, along with Ukrainian Alex Len. Living up to the reputation of being a feisty out, the Terps hung in there for as long as they could (in this case halfway through the second period.) Trailing by 16 just a few minutes into the second half, Maryland cut the Tar Heel lead to 9 with a pair of Terrell Stoglin three’s. Unfortunately, that still wasn’t enough to overcome the machine that is UNC as they fell 85-69 at Philips Arena.
Led by sophomore Kendall Marshall’s 13 points and 12 dimes, the Terps just couldn’t keep up. Marshall, a native of Virginia who, going into the game, was just 6 assists shy of the ACC single season record, broke that in about 5 minutes. The previous record was 303, set in 1987-’88 by Craig Neal of Georgia Tech. Marshall had the Terps defenders guessing the entire game, tossing 60 ft. passes directly to a cutting Harrison Barnes or a posted up Tyler Zeller.
Stoglin and Freshman Nick Faust continued their string of strong play throughout the first half. With around 8 minutes remaining, the two had combined for 20 of the 22 Maryland points scored. Stoglin finished the game with 30 points, and Faust with 11. Unfortunately, the inconsistent shooting of the rest of the team would be the Terps unraveling. Faust, who had 17 against UNC in their last outing, couldn’t connect a phone call let alone shots in the second half, finishing the game 4-of-16. Stoglin went cold for stretches, and simply couldn’t keep Maryland in it by himself.
Senior Sean Mosley, playing what is likely his final game as a Maryland Terrapin, defended aggressively but ultimately couldn’t make much of anything. He sat down with about 2 minutes remaining, finishing the game with 10 points on 2-12 shooting. Stoglin, Faust, and Mosley combined for 51 of the Terps 69 points.
North Carolina finished the game with 5 players scoring in double figures. Harrison Barnes and Reggie Bullock both finished with 15 apiece, while Tyler Zeller and James McAdoo each had 14.
Midway through the first half, Tar Heels John Henson went down grimacing as he landed on his wrist. Henson attempted to come back in after the medical team taped him up, but did not return in the second half. X-Rays taken during the game were negative.
The Tar Heels move on to play the winner of the UVA – NC State game in the ACC semifinals.
Terps game analysis and season recap coming later today, RIP Sean Mosley
The entire game Maryland seemed to have its eyes on a much larger opponent from North Carolina. By two o’clock on Thursday, after drubbing Wake Forest 82-60 and advancing to the quarter-finals of the ACC tournament, they were able to begin focusing on the real enemy: the UNC Tar Heels.
In what could be argued was one of the most complete games Maryland has played the entire season, the Terrapins scored 44 second half points to put the game out of hand by the final buzzer.
All year long, when Terrell Stoglin is shooting well, the Terrapins typically succeed. That was the case today, as he finished with a fantastic 25 points on 8-of-15 shooting, including 3-7 from the three. It wasn’t just his scoring however, as Stoglin had a season-high 6 assists against Wake Forest, setting up players throughout the game.
To go along with Stoglin’s fantastic effort was Nick Faust performance today. A streaky player, Faust put all the pieces together today to compile 19 points and 5 rebounds, making 6-11 from the FT line.
The second half for Maryland was defined by the inspired front court play of Alex Len and James Padgett. Padgett finished with 10 points and 5 rebounds, while Len finished with 6 rebounds and 3 clutch blocks.
For the Deacons, it was more of the same. Having come into the game losing 10 of their last 12 games, they didn’t have much of a chance from the start. A valiant effort in the first half, led by Junior guard CJ Harris, who finished with 14 points, kept the game close at 36-31. Unfortunately, that is about as close as it got.
Wake Forest also received a great effort from Sophomore forward Travis McKie, who scored 22 points and collected 8 rebounds. Sadly, the rest of the team could not manage to spark anything. Between Harris, McKie, and Senior forward Nikita Mescheriakov there were 52 of the Deacons total 60 points.
Maryland moves on to face the #1 seeded North Carolina Tar Heels Friday, March 9 at 12 PM ET. The Terrapins have lost two straight against the Tar Heels going into tomorrow’s game.